See also
Husband:
Charles Wesley Payne (1854-1942)
Wife:
Jessie Crosby (1859?- )
Children:
Marriage:
Q2 1879
Bury St. Edmunds "Registration District", Suffolk, England1
Name:
Charles Wesley Payne2
Sex:
Male
Father:
Mother:
Occupation:
Birth:
Q3 1854
Census:
7 Apr 1861 (age 6)
34 St. Andrews Street, St. Mary, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England9
son aged 6, attending school and living with parents and a brother. Born in Gravesend Kent
Census:
20 Apr 1871 (age 16)
The Green, Bardwell, Suffolk, England2
son aged 16, living with parents. Born in Milton Kent
Census:
3 Apr 1881 (age 26)
The Green, Bardwell, Suffolk, England3
married son working as a carpenter and living with his parents Richard and Augusta, brother Alfred, sister-in-law Celia, nephews Albert and Ernest, and nieces Emma and Ada. Born in Milton Kent
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 36)
39 The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England4
married head of the household working as a wheelwright and caprenter and living with his wife Jessie, daughters Rosa and Flora, and sons Oliver and Richard. Born in Gravesend Kent
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 46)
The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England5
married son as Wesley Payne working as a carpenter and living in three rooms with his parents. Born in Gravesend Kent
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 56)
Dunnell Lane, Hepworth, Suffolk, England6
married head of the household working as a wheelwright and living in four rooms with his wife, daughter Mary, son Earnest and his mother. Born in Milton Gravesend
Death:
6 Mar 1942 (age 87)
New Hall, Boreham, Essex, England7
a retired carpenter and joiner of 171 Oldchurch Road Romford
Name:
Jessie Crosby1
Sex:
Female
Father:
-
Mother:
-
Birth:
1859 (app)
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 32)
39 The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England4
married wife living with her husband Charles, daughters Rosa and Flora, and sons Oliver and Richard. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 42)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
married head of the household living in four rooms with daughters Flora and Mary, and sons Oliver, Richard, Albert and Earnest. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 53)
Dunnell Lane, Hepworth, Suffolk, England6
married wife living in four rooms with her husband, daughter Mary, son Earnest and her mother-in-law. Born in Bardwell. Married for thirty-one years with eight children, all of whom are still living
Name:
Sex:
Male
Spouse:
Occupation:
Birth:
16 Oct 1879
Census:
3 Apr 1881 (age 1)
Quaker Lane, Bardwell, Suffolk, England16
a grandson living with his grandparents Samuell (sic) and Mary Hurrald, and uncle Arthur Hurrald. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 10)
6 Spring Road, Bardwell, Suffolk, England17
grandson attending school and living in four rooms with his grandparents Samuel and Mary Hurrell. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 20)
3 Stockwell Lane, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, England13
unmarried nephew working as a carpenter and living with his uncle Alfred, aunt Cecilia, and cousins Arthur and Alice. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 31)
2 Winchester Villa, Cromwell Avenue, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, England14
married head of the household working as a carpenter and living in five rooms with his wife Alice, and sons Stanley and Charles. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
29 Sep 1939 (age 59)
Bardwell House, 92 Great Cambridge Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, England15
a married nurseryman food production (on own account) living with his wife Alice, ac losed record (presumably son John), and relative of his wife Ellen Allured. Born on 16th October 1879
Death:
26 Feb 1953 (age 73)
Probate:
24 Jun 1953
Probate Registry, London, England18
of 92 Cambridge Arterial Road Cheshunt Hertfordshire died 26th February 1953, probate of effects of £13,470 0s 9d (~£361,000 in 2017) to the Midland Bank Executor and Trustee Company limited and Stanley Archibald Payne nurseryman
Name:
Rosa Payne19
Sex:
Female
Spouse:
Occupation:
housemaid20
Birth:
Q1 1881
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 10)
39 The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England4
daughter attending school and living with her parents Charles and Jessie, sister Flora, and brothers Oliver and Richard. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 20)
12 Fordwych Road, Hampstead, London, England20
unmarried servant working as a domestic housemaid and living with Henry and Mary Elton and family, and another servant. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 28)
Pettits Farm, Pettits Lane, Romford, Essex, England21
married wife living in six rooms with her husband Frederick, daughters Dorothy and Gladys, son Harold, and her brother Richard. Born in Bardwell Suffolk and married for six years with three children, all of whom are still living
Death:
10 Jul 1928 (age 47)
Burial:
Jul 192823
alongside son Donald and daughter Kathleen
Name:
Sex:
Male
Spouse:
Occupation:
agricultural labourer / cowman then a builders and a motor works labourer10 26 27 28
Birth:
4 Nov 1886
1911 census says born in Bury St. Edmunds, 1939 census says born on 4th November 1888
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 4)
39 The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England4
son attending school and living with his parents Charles and Jessie, sisters Rosa and Flora, and brother Richard. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 15)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
unmarried son working as an agricultural labourer and living in four rooms with his mother Jessie, sisters Flora and Mary, and brothers Richard, Albert and Earnest. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 23)
44 Camden Terrace, Green Lane, Ilford, Essex, England26
an unmarried boarder working as a cowman on a farm and living in five rooms with Edward Hatton and family. Born in Bury St. Edmunds Suffolk
Census:
19 Jun 1921 (age 34 yrs 7 mns)
25 Blewitts Cottages, New Road, Rainham, Essex, England27
married head of the household working as a labourer for builders Baker Hammond and Lavon of Rainham Essex and living in five rooms with his wife Grace, sons Norman and Stanley, and daughter Joyce. Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
29 Sep 1939 (age 52)
82 Hubert Road, Rainham, Essex, England28
a married motor works labourer living with his wife Grace, daughter Irene, and three closed records (presumably children Vera, Daphne and Dennis). Born on 4th November 1988
Death:
8 Apr 1972 (age 85)
Surrey "Northern Registration District", Surrey, England25 29 30
Probate:
31 May 1972
Probate Registry, Winchester, Hampshire, England29
of 63 Upper Halliford Road Shepperton Middlesex died 8th April 1972, probate of £1,213 (~£14,000 in 2017)
Burial:
Jun 1972
Rainham Cemetery, Upminster Road North, Rainham, Essex, England31
Name:
Sex:
Female
Birth:
Q2 1888
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 3)
39 The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England4
daughter living with her parents Charles and Jessie, sister Rosa, and brothers Oliver and Richard. Born in Exning Cambridgeshire
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 13)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
unmarried daughter living in four rooms with her mother Jessie, sisters Flora and Mary, and brothers Oliver, Richard, Albert and Earnest. Born in Exening
Census absence:
2 Apr 1911 (age 22-23)
Death:
6 Sep 1925 (age 37)
Camberwell House, Peckham Road, Camberwell, London, England33 34
Probate:
22 Oct 1925
Probate Registry, London, England34
a spinster of 411 Archway Road Highgate Middlesex died 6th September 1925 at Camberwell House Peckham Road Surrey, probate of effects of £3,774 4s 9d (~£155,000 in 2017) to Alexander Archibald Beswick manufacturer and Henry Wilfred Carter solicitor
Name:
Sex:
Male
Spouse (1):
Spouse (2):
Occupation:
Birth:
1 Dec 1889
1911 census says born in Bardwell Suffolk and 1939 register says born on 1st December 1890
Census:
5 Apr 1891 (age 1)
39 The Street, Hepworth, Suffolk, England4
son living with his parents Charles and Jessie, sisters Rosa and Flora, and brother Oliver. Born in Hepworth Suffolk
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 11)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
son living in four rooms with his mother Jessie, sisters Flora and Mary, and brothers Oliver, Albert and Earnest. Born in Hepworth Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 20)
Pettits Farm, Pettits Lane, Romford, Essex, England21
unmarried brother-in-law working as a milkman on a farm and living in six rooms with his brother-inl-aw Frederick, his sister Rosa, nieces Dorothy and Gladys, and nephew Harold, Born in Bardwell Suffolk
Census:
29 Sep 1939 (age 49)
43 Cromer Road, Romford, Essex, England37
a married milkman roundsman living with his wife Irene, son Richard and two closed records. Born on 10th December 1890 (actually 1889)
Death:
Q1 1979 (age 89)
Havering "Registration District", Greater London, England36
Name:
Sex:
Male
Spouse:
Occupation:
painters labourer40
Birth:
Q4 1891
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 9)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
son living in four rooms with his mother Jessie, sisters Flora and Mary, and brothers Oliver, Richard and Earnest. Born in Hepworth Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 18)
near school, Great Ryburgh, Norfolk, England40
unmarried boarder working as a painters labourer and living in four rooms with Charles and Mary Barnes, two servants and another boarder. Born in Hepworth Suffolk
Name:
Mary Payne41
Sex:
Female
Birth:
Q3 1895
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 5)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
daughter living in four rooms with her mother Jessie, sister Flora, and brothers Oliver, Richard, Albert and Earnest. Born in Hepworth Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 15)
Dunnell Lane, Hepworth, Suffolk, England6
daughter living in four rooms with her parents, brother Earnest and a grandmother. Born in Hepworth
Name:
Sex:
Male
Spouse:
Occupation:
carpenter and joiner44
Birth:
5 Jul 1899
1939 register has 6th July 1899 as date of birth
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 1)
Bury Road, Wattisfield, Suffolk, England10
son living in four rooms with his mother Jessie, sisters Flora and Mary, and brothers Oliver, Richard and Albert. Born in Coney Weston Suffolk
Census:
2 Apr 1911 (age 11)
Dunnell Lane, Hepworth, Suffolk, England6
son living in four rooms with his parents, sister Mary and a grandmother. Born in Coney Weston
Military Service:
btw 14 Dec 1917 and 31 Mar 1918 (age 18)
royal navy as a seaman No:F4379045
being transferred to th R.A.F. he wa 5' 6½" tall, 35" chest, brown hair, grey eyes, a fresh complexion with scars on both knees and bottom of back
Military Service:
btw 1 Apr 1918 and 14 Feb 1919 (age 18-19)
Royal Air Force as No:24379045
being transferred to the R.A.F. on 16th March 1919
Census:
29 Sep 1939 (age 40)
143 Park Lane, Hornchurch, Essex, England44
a married carpenter and joiner living with his wife Alice, son Derek, daughter Beryl and a closed record (presumably daughter Valerie). Born on 6th July 1899
Death:
Q4 1971 (age 72)
Havering "Registration District", Greater London, England43
England and Wales Marriage Index 1837 - 2005, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). Bury St. Edmunds 1879 quarter:2 volume:4a page:822. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Census 1871, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG10 piece:1726 folio:51 page:7.
England and Wales Census 1881, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG11 piece:1840 folio:49 page:14 schedule:322. Cit. Date: 14 May 2022.
England and Wales Census 1891, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG12 piece:1578 folio:21 page:10. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG13 piece:1902 folio:89 page:7. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.
England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG14 piece11731 class:RG78 piece:649 registration district:239 sub-district:2 enumeration district:4 schedule:90. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.
Death Certificate. see personal folder. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018. Family Archive, Held by David and Sue Wilkinson.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Gravesend 1854 quarter:3 volume:2a page:223.
England and Wales Census 1861, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG09 piece:1140 folio:119 page:33.
England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG13 piece:1759 folio:95 page:10. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Thingoe 1879 quarter:4 volume:4a page:575. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Ware 1953 quarter:1 volume:4b page:301. Cit. Date: 7 February 2022.
England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG13 piece:1278 folio:107 page:7 schedule:35. Cit. Date: 10 January 2022.
England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG14 piece:7462 class:RG78 piece:360 registration district:132 sub-district:8 enumeration district:12 schedule:68. Cit. Date: 7 February 2022.
UK 1939 Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG101 piece:1192B page:6 line:21 letter code:CGDN. Cit. Date: 7 February 2022.
England and Wales Census 1881, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG11 piece:1840 folio:60 page:11 schedule:411. Cit. Date: 4 February 2022.
England and Wales Census 1891, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG12 piece:1449 folio:38 page:7 schedule:31. Cit. Date: 4 February 2022.
UK Government Probate Service, UK Government Find a Will, (on-line at www.probatesearch.service.gov.uk, www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). London 1953 page:328. Cit. Date: 7 February 2022.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Thingoe 1881 quarter:1 volume:4a page:598. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Census 1901, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG13 piece:128 folio:113 page:32 schedule:152. Cit. Date: 29 June 2021.
England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG14 piece:9829 class:RG78 piece:520 registration district:191 sub-district:1 enumeration district:5 schedule:139. Cit. Date: 11 February 2020.
England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Hendon 1928 quarter:3 volume:3a page:303. Cit. Date: 29 June 2021.
Gravestone. Photograph filed in Rosa's personal folder. Cit. Date: 12 February 2020.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Thingoe 1887 quarter:1 volume:4a page:693. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Surrey Northern 1972 quarter:2 volume:5g page:451. Cit. Date: 22 October 2020.
England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG14 piece:9879 class:RG78 piece:521A registration district:191 sub-district:2 enumeration district:30 schedule:79. Cit. Date: 3 October 2020.
England and Wales Census 1921, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive series:RG15 piece:8906 registration district:191 sub-district:4 enumeration district:11, 12 schedule:136. Cit. Date: 20 February 2023.
UK 1939 Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG101 piece:1525C page:4 line:24 letter code:DCBV. Cit. Date: 4 October 2020.
UK Government Probate Service, UK Government Find a Will, (on-line at www.probatesearch.service.gov.uk, www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). Winchester 1972 page:311. Cit. Date: 22 October 2020.
Gravestone. Photograph provided by Steve Payne. Cit. Date: 20 February 2023.
Steve Payne personal communication. email dated 20th February 2023. Cit. Date: 20 February 2023.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Newmarket 1888 quarter:2 volume:3b page:535. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Camberwell 1925 quarter:3 volume:1d page:626. Cit. Date: 13 June 2020.
UK Government Probate Service, UK Government Find a Will, (on-line at www.probatesearch.service.gov.uk, www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). London 1925 page:555. Cit. Date: 13 June 2020.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Thetford 1889 quarter:4 volume:4b page:370. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Havering 1979 quarter:1 volume:13 page:159. Cit. Date: 17 February 2020.
UK 1939 Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG101 piece:1534G page:17 line:20 letter code:DCHN. Cit. Date: 16 February 2020.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Thetford 1891 quarter:4 volume:4b page:382. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
Marriage Certificate. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019. Family Archive, Held by David and Sue Wilkinson.
England and Wales Census 1911, (on-line at www.ancestry.co.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG14 piece:11552 class:RG78 piece:634 registration district:233 sub-district:1 enumeration district:7 schedule:37. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.
England and Wales Birth Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Thetford 1895 quarter:3 volume:4b page:384. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
Ibid. Thetford 1899 quarter:3 volume:4b page:371. Cit. Date: 7 April 2018.
England and Wales Death Index 1837 - 2021, (on-line at www.gro.gov.uk, www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk). Havering 1971 quarter:4 volume:5c page:49. Cit. Date: 17 September 2019.
UK 1939 Register, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive reference:RG101 piece:1521E page:12 line:7 letter code:DCAZ. Cit. Date: 15 September 2019.
FindMyPast British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924 Transcription, (on-line at www.findmypast.co.uk). National Archive ref:ADM 188/635/43790. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.
FindMyPast British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939, (on-line at www.findmypast. co.uk). National Archive ref:AIR 79/2196. Cit. Date: 21 December 2018.